GOLDEN RIVER
PSYCHICAL Vengeance Quotient
Updates: 05/29/2018 Vengeance; 05/21/2018 added Say;  02/13/2018  Actin section started;  02/12/2018  Arsing section started   Acting Out - Forced       Arsing the Asses       Burn - The Long Burn       Despoiling the Spoiled       An Eye for an Eye    God - Playing God       Making Others Look Bad (separate page)       Misery Loves Company (separate page)          Popping       Rubbing It In       Say - Having The Last Say     Taste - Giving People a Taste of their Own Medicine     Trophyism     Turning the Tables See also: Guilt  in Driving - Focal Vengeance Quotient - Summary This section brings together certain basic human emotions that can and often do go into battles between people.  At first glance, some of the ideas expressed here might seem silly and immature, not the stuff of adult politics and wars.  It is suggested that we refrain from such judgments because people often operate from subconscious drives and early programming or experiences. In addition, many young adults are involved in wars, terrorism, surveillance and policing.  I have picked up these things psychically during what is felt to be gangstalking and elsewhere. These potentially simple seeming emotions can accompany certain forms of evolution and craftiness.  Sense the craft of crime - in some cases knowledge gained from decades of operations coupled with networking - and you can then perceive that apparent simple childishness can go hand in hand with complex antics.  Monkeys in the jungle with high end weapons, we can begin to catch a glimmer of fast-paced games dancing around us.  Lurking in the shadows and employing invisible fingers tactics, sometimes it takes stilling our own minds and emotions to begin to both pick up and appropriately respond to these things.  Sometimes the answers are in silence and observation.  In that case it is neither action nor brush-offs that will convert the situation.  The action mode might be premature and the brush-off might see  the whole thing as so silly and unlikely it is beneath us. We need to respect the forces at play and to acknowledge the emotions being felt and expressed by the perpetrators. Sometimes they want attention, sometimes they are bored.  It can be about habit and not wanting to do things another way.  It can also be about not knowing how to get out - so much has happened, so much has been done. Acting Out - Forced This refers to using various covert and overt methods to get someone to do something bad or against his normal moral, religious, cultural, sexual or gender center.  Closely associated are the concepts of Popping and Arsing the Ass (Making an ass out of a smart ass).  This is mostly about behaviors in the outer world generated by forced changes in the inner world of the person - from a series of spontaneous manipulations and planned operative acts.  in some ways, this can be a Manchurian Candidate theme. It can cover such things as: Making Christian funadamentalists into sexually corrupt people on the media Getting a heterosexual woman to have thoughts about women by feeding her thoughts and images from a telepath or an electronically harassing device Encouraging various vices Using mind control, getting someone to go into public schools or other public places to shoot or bomb innocent people Arsing the Asses Making an ass out of a smart ass Related ideas: Cutting someone down to size Taking someone down a notch or two You think you are so smart You think you know everything You think you are better than me What a wise guy! As it sounds, this refers to making someone look like a fool.  A target who someone deems has had too high of a self opinion could be  made to look unstable, stupid, mentally ill and more.  Dark humor. Game playing.  Mirages.  It is this website’s belief that psychotronics, psychic, media, photography, videos, fake news, setups and more are being used on the political arena in an unprecedented manner in the USA.  Politicians, FBI leaders, CIA agents…etc…are being made to look like idiots.  One example Some of the targets are white fundamentalist Christians who are being made to look pasty white, unsubstantial, of low intellect and like Nazis.  There is more going on here than we can see; don’t overlook strange phenomena as a possibility.  This website is Church and State separationist, but fake news and malicious antics against whites by a liberal Islamic driven media are not acceptable, because fake news is a form of violence.  We cannot find our center, make decisions, identify trends, figure out real corruption.Liberal gets mixed in with Islamic extremism.  We can ask if much of the corruption news is anti-American trickery. The Long Burn “I think that the lone intention was to break our spirits as prisoners, to break our will so we would reach a point of personal deterioration and lose hope for everything.”  -Prisoner #52: Mohamed Ahmed al-Shoreiya Ben Soud http //www aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/03/dark-prisoners-cia-torture-programme-160326051331796.html This is about revenge extracted over a long period of time and designed to wither a person or country down to the bone and then into ashes.  It is the slow drip of acid, the eating away of a person’s or country’s self-concept, the annihilation by silent extraction and blocking off outlets of hope or support (see also Funneling).   It can include the torture of prisoners, such as occurred in CIA prisons.  In the quote above by Ben Soud, he had been subjected to severe torture including inadequate food and water, toilets and ways to keep clean and groomed; his leg had been broken and he had been beaten, hung from ceilings, put through sleep deprivation and much more while kept at what is know as The Dark Prison in Kabul, Afghanistan for a little more than a year shortly after 9/11. It can be over things like the USA did not reach in and help Poland after World War II, or did not actively help Muslim Bosnians during their time of terror at the hands of the Serbs.  It can also be over certain types of American complicity/duplicity involving direct or indirect  anti-Jewish acts before, during and after World War II, as through religious, financial/industrial and “good old boy network” support- so the long burn could be coming from an Israeli secret retaliation, often referred to in Jewish conspiracy theories.  It can involve old history used to validate current military retaliations - like to avenge one’s ancestors or get back old territory, like an Ottoman Empire quest.  It can  include issues over Palestine and other peoples who feel they have lost lands and lives to “The Great Satan” of the West which gets wrapped up with African Africans, American Africans, Native Americans and Hispanic peoples in North and South America.  In the acts of vengeance, the ego involvement might include a desire to be top dog, to smash targets and make them beg, feel small, feel humiliated, to lose faith of family and society, to lose allies in other countries, to become formless, a “nothing.”  There can be a nihilistic streak to the retaliation in which self and clan members are killed to try to win a point, some of which could be to make the opponent look like the terrorist, the evil one ( see also Making The Other Guy Look Bad).  The nihilism can be a form of rage both turned inward and outward to the point innocent people as well as the terrorists are killed.  The idea is “If I cannot have it my way and demand your acknowledgement of my power and my peeves, I will take it out on the world and commit suicide.”  The long burn here, in the case of suicide, is that 100 or 1000 more will follow to take up the vacuum of the suicided colleague.  Setting up the enemy by killing members of one’s race or religious group to make it look like it was the Americans, or the cops, or the military…seems to be one way the long burn game is being played; it is an extension of personal suicide, but the victims in this case did not give their permission to be “suicided” for the group in this way.  The long burn here is “We are not ever going to give up or stop until you acknowledge our demands.”  Many blown up planes, bombed public buildings and events and other targeting of innocents later, the terrorists go more and more into denial about being wrong or making mistakes.  The ego takes over.  It can include lack of being able to accept half-way conciliation, or assuming all efforts at conciliation or fake or not good enough.  Some of it could looking into behaviors of the enemy and deciding they don’t really hold the terrorist’s group in enough esteem or importance, they have not taken the respect to a high enough level.  There can almost be a tendency to want to be treated like a god or the chosen people, or the “real root race” of the planet - and it can include trying to eliminate an entire other race or religion. In terms of motus operandi or applying a psychological review of these people to know how to respond, it is suggested here that acknowledging the strategy and emotional construct behind The Long Burn will assist in counter-terrorism efforts.  If you can kind of get the feel of it, it can help fine tune appropriate prevention and emergency responses. Despoiling the Spoiled This is the notion that someone has it is too easy and needs to be “taught a lesson” by taking the fizz and pop out of them - it can include doing things both directly and indirectly to make them poor, homeless, unemployable, etc.    Covert (ie, invisible fingers) and overt (direct out in the open retaliation) operations might in be in effect. Danny Pearl was probably brutally killed at least in part because the Arabs involved felt he had it too easy - ie, parents who were well off. See: DVD/The Journalist and the Jihadi PBS 2006 video segment time at about45:08 to 45:47 Of Khalid Khawaja (Political Analyst, Ex-Pakistan Air Force-- “Your country has kidnapped thousands of my brothers and sisters…Danny will have many to look after him…I don’t have to worry about him….” One interpretation of this is that Khawaja feels he is another spoiled American with ample support while Islamic people often have little or no one…. People use this if they feel someone is a laborer and another person is making use of that labor or from someone in their group - ie, minorities, unions.  It is this website’s opinion decades long gangstalking can be involved and part of the game is to get the previous perceived or real spoilers to join up with them against the target. Playing God As simple and direct as it sounds, this is a tendency for both individuals and groups to orchestrate a sense of knowing God better than other people to force them into agreement and submission.  It is the sense one is so right and the other people are so wrong.  In the belief that one has found the way, an attempt to take hold of the reins is possible.  Some of it is ego driven in the sense a previous victim becomes the tyrant; it can include feelings of unworthiness which have not been healed or reckoned with fully, a general sense of yuckiness inside which is being counterbalanced by aggressive assertions of supremacy.  It can include nihilism, anarchism, millenialism and dominionism.   Terrorists, it can be argued, are playing God. Popping - Getting the Person to Implode or Explode This refers to pushing buttons, provoking, bothering, upsetting, teasing or even torturing a person until they pop, or give in, change direction, become violent break down, give in, lose their center, succumb, lose initiative, convert to a religion or belief system, sexual orientation, etc. Rubbing It In Rubbing it in has to do with exaggerating or making worse a complaint, suspicion or bad comment directed at a perpetrator.  It has to do with retaliation, rubbing it in the face of the commenter or taking the complaints to a new level.   It can seem childish or even silly until we realize it is in fact a driving force in certain abuse scenarios. It is a type of punishment which can include turning the tables and can include making the person act out in the way that she or she said the victimizer does or did.  For example, if a person is saying the British Monarchy is fascist, or that Muslims are totalitarian, or Germans are still Nazis, then the punishment is to rub into the faces of the people who say those things by sending it in many times worse or making those people come across on the world stage as exactly that bad thing.  It also can include the guilt-employing tactic of the perpetrator saying basically, “OK, fine, if you say I am that bad thing, then I will be that bad thing!” They start doing those things to that person with great venom and force.  even if that particular person was not yet being a target in quite that way.  It’s a way to not take responsibility for the labeling behavior by grossly exaggerating either the same or other behaviors.  Rubbing it in can include trying to make the victim act out in the way the perpetrator did so he is caught red-handed or is otherwise set up.  To use an example, an angry Palestinian (or friend of Palestine) could abduct a Jew, abuse him, then make him do or say things on the world stage so that all Jews come across as “evil Zionists.”  As another example, an American president could be abducted and abused while photos of him are shown smiling and warm with Arab leaders, making him look by American Big Oil conspiring with OPEC; in the meantime, lots of material on the Internet as propaganda might be put out from apparently different sources about how corrupt the USA is.. Rubbing it in seems to be used in long-term abuse scenarios, part of torture.  It’s as if the perpetrator is saying “Fine, you feel you are so smart, now take this and this.  So how smart do you feel now?”   Or….”Fine, you think I’m that bad.  Okay, watch me do this and that.  Now do I meet your expectations?”   In a way, if we use the well-known good cop/bad cop or good child/bad child scenario, the bad child acts out as the bad child, or tries to pin the bad child image on the good child. updated 06/1/2016 Say - Having The Last Say This is the idea that someone thinks you want to have the last say in what they feel is a back and forth round of one-upmanship.  One place this can be happening is in the underground world of psychic or psychotronic attacks.  What is going on here is people are competing for dominance or someone is trying not to be forced under the thumb of someone else .  It can include someone wanting to have the last punch or the final word on something.  It can also include someone wanting to be heard for having the smarter or most enlightened idea in a space in which neither person is really listening to the other ones.  There can be put downs, rejoiners, people playing teacher or more adult parent with each other.  Taste of Own Medicine Giving people a taste of their own negativity Idioms:  Give a taste of one’s own medicine https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/give+a+taste+of+own+medicine give (one) a taste of (one's) own medicine To do something (usually unpleasant) to someone who usually acts in the same way. Bill is always excluding me from things, so I'm going to give him a taste of his own medicine and not invite him to my party. This team likes to play tough defense, so let's give them a taste of their own medicine and not give them any space to score. https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/give+a+taste+of+own+medicine Teaching People a Lesson This relates to the idea that one of the motives behind world terrorism, guerilla warfare or any kind of revenge is the idea a person or persons need to be taught a lesson.  Although simplistic seeming, it is this website’’s belief that this is a major modus operandi behind certain world events, including in American politics, and that one ex-president with this as a core direction is Barack Obama.  Certain Islamic groups - some of which are associated with La raza and Black Panthers -seem to be using this in a group vendetta against the world. It’s close relative is the vigilante system.  An example would be Christian religious white guys who are frustrated with American legal and judicial system who take the law into their own hands and go after people. Updates: Page started 02/10/2018 Page started 01/04/2018 Trophyism This refers to an ego-driven approach to combating the enemy.   It is about one-up-manship, bragging, smear tactics in making others look bad.  It’s displys of cut-off heads and/or dead  tortured bodies in public places.  It’s bragging about how a waterboarded victim gave in within ten minutes.  It’s also about making public officials, police men, CIA, FBI, etc. look weak, stupid, scandalous, silly or in support of liberal groups which are, say, really the Muslm Brotherhood.  It can include getting a buzz over tricking someone, making them sad, taking their family inheritance and giving it to another member of the family (playing favorites), taking assets and giving it to another company, taking over how governments spend money, taking over how family members spsend money.  It can go from the minute level ) individual and family) to the national or pan-regional level.  It can be about getting people to buy from certain companies, sneakily redirecting things from a whistleblower to people who take over that person’s life and assets.  A lot of it is overt - but much of it is covert using Invisible Fingers types of antics.  The people are trying to bolster their egos and shut off their sympathies and consciences through dark humor, drugs and alcohol, keeping constantly busy so they don’t have time to get depressed or think deeper thoughts about the meaning of life. Turning the Tables Psychic influencing as sending it back at you I was introduced to this phenomena in two ways.  One was from the now defunct  Durango Psychic Institute from Durango, CO from years ago (1990s) where teachers discussed sending bad energy back to people (like collecting energy someone had sent into a ball and sending it back to them)and the other was from a psychic over a phone hotline who claimed she had worked with the FBI to solve crimes.  She said I was experiencing a “turning the tables” situation in the psychic attacks I was experiencing.  Here is my input on turning the tables: I don’t like it.  It gives psychics an exaggerated sense of power in playing God with people they would punish for any number of things, from the petty to the profoundly evil.  I felt it was a red flag of immaturity when my teachers at the psychic school suggested doing this with people.  There are better ways to handle one’s anger even if we don’t always follow our own advice on this.  Turning the tables when run by PSYOPS or people with advanced psychotronics at their disposal can take on the feeling of being in a mini-universe of someone else’s psychology or take on things.  When you pick up their vibes during the process of having things upset around you, you learn something about them - how they think, operate, what they are missing, what is lacking in their thought or emotional maturity processes.  So although being attacked during a turning the tables operation is challenging and unpleasant, the side benefit is they let you into their universe at least a little.  The drawback to any psychic attack is that after it has been going on a long time, you can start taking in their baggage and becoming more like them without meaning to.  Their meanness could rub off on you so you start reacting to people and things more like they do.    This is in part exactly the kind of response they want, because they want to bring you down to their level because they feel like you judge them or feel like you are a better quality than they are.  If they see you starting to become angry and violent, it makes them happy because now “you know how they feel.”  Misery loves company. updates: page started 02/10/2018 AN EYE FOR AN EYE Wikipedia: An Eye for an Eye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_for_an_eye "Only one eye for one eye", also known as "An eye for an eye", or the law of retaliation, is the principle that a person who has injured another person is to be penalized to a similar degree, or in softer interpretations, the victim receives the [estimated] value of the injury in compensation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_for_an_eye Cambridge Dictionary:an eye for an eye (and a tooth for a tooth)saying https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/an-eye-for-an-eye-and-a-tooth-for-a-tooth said to show that you believe if someone does something wrong, that person should be punished by having the same thing done to them https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/an-eye-for-an-eye-and-a-tooth-for-a-tooth US History dot org: Hammurabi's Code: An Eye for an Eye http://www.ushistory.org/civ/4c.asp An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth."This phrase, along with the idea of written laws, goes back to ancient Mesopotamian culture that prospered long before the Bible was written or the civilizations of the Greeks or Romans flowered."An eye for an eye ..." is a paraphrase of Hammurabi's Code, a collection of 282 laws inscribed on an upright stone pillar. The code was found by French archaeologists in 1901 while excavating the ancient city of Susa, which is in modern- day Iran.Hammurabi is the best known and most celebrated of all Mesopotamian kings. He ruled the Babylonian Empire from 1792-50 B.C.E. Although he was concerned with keeping order in his kingdom, this was not his only reason for compiling the list of laws. When he began ruling the city-state of Babylon, he had control of no more than 50 square miles of territory. As he conquered other city-states and his empire grew, he saw the need to unify the various groups he controlled. A Need for Justice Hammurabi keenly understood that, to achieve this goal, he needed one universal set of laws for all of the diverse peoples he conquered. Therefore, he sent legal experts throughout his kingdom to gather existing laws. These laws were reviewed and some were changed or eliminated before compiling his final list of 282 laws. Despite what many people believe, this code of laws was not the first. http://www.ushistory.org/civ/4c.asp
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